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Post by junilee26 on Aug 30, 2012 10:57:39 GMT -5
I believe that all citizens should be required to do all the same things if it's a rule, regulation. Just because generals and leaders are in control of everything the rules/ regulations should be followed by them too. This story reminded me of the novel "The Giver". Inside the book The Giver it also had many regulations that had to be followed by the citizens. Some of the rules that had to be followed in The Giver was ridiculous but i also believe that rules that were made in Harrison Bergeron was ridiculous.
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Post by jisu25 on Aug 31, 2012 4:43:25 GMT -5
I don't know if the handicap general was the same as Hazel, because if all the people were all equal why does only the general have a shotgun in her possession? If everybody were equal in 2081, then shouldn't everyone be allowed to carry a gun? And it is also hard to think that the general is like Hazel because would she be able to remember the reason why she even had a shotgun with her? I personally think that she isn't the same type of person as Hazel because to me, she seems to be more intelligent than Hazel.
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Post by munisa on Aug 31, 2012 6:24:12 GMT -5
I never actually thought about how the general isn't wearing a handicap. In the textbook it doesn't really say much about the general does it? Anyways I think that the reason why the general isn't wearing a handicap is because he is a leader, and I think that leaders should have a certain type of a privilege because a leader cannot control its citizens without having any power can he? I honestly think that the general should be wearing a handicap because others may also decide not to wear any of their own handicaps.
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Post by irin on Sept 1, 2012 1:09:57 GMT -5
For me it is hard to understand why powerful people can do anything if everbody is equal? but I think it is important to have leader so they can lead the people. But I think it is not good leader can do everything. I think leader is important eventhough she is smart but She doesn't wear handicap.
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Post by sergeyfen on Sept 1, 2012 5:37:46 GMT -5
Ohhh thats hard question, i think that it is unfair to other people that she is the leader and wants to make everyone equal, but she is not equal. If she wants to make everyone equal she should commit to it and be same as other people. My another point of you is that i agree with you that there should be a leader that is better than everyone else, but i think that general did that she was jealous that someone might overtake her place by smartness and other advantages. But we all know that world isn't perfect, so there is always gonna be unfairness. But im more on the side that it is unfair to other it's better to not have handicap at all rather to have other people to wear handicaps but not yourself
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Post by dwsuh1 on Sept 1, 2012 6:47:09 GMT -5
My opinion is that in Harrison Bergeron Handicap Gerneral is like the dictator which executes people when they rebel against the government. So Handicap Gerneral think of himself as superior which shows that not everyone was equal which tells that most of the people in the story actually was hipnotised or brainwashed by the government. So the government thaught 'hmm.... what will happen when someone goes aginst us when we make a perfect equal world?' they probably thaught this idea over and over and got an good idea which was "just give superior people handicap and us government will just control over them" Simply saying will just be a dictator and control over people.
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Post by james on Sept 1, 2012 21:14:47 GMT -5
My opinion is that leader of something should have many privileges than others. In order to lead their people, leaders have to be better in many ways. So that a country or whatever is stable. What I mean by stable is no war, economically, and etc. Since the law in this story is being used (even though people are being forced), I believe that it is kind of pointless for the general to wear any handicaps, even though she is better than others and technically saying not "equal". The reason why is that she is a leader of one country. She has to be better or not equal to others so that she can lead the country better. I mean, think about it, if she as a leader, not having any privilege, tries to lead the country, do you think the country would be stable? Without giving up something, there is no achievement. In this story, people are giving up the general's equality, and because of that, they are living in more stabled country.
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Post by yeajinchoi on Sept 2, 2012 3:55:49 GMT -5
I never thought about that. Interesting point Elisa! Maybe Handicapper General didn't wear any handicaps to be a threat to those who try to overthrow the government. Without any handicaps, the Handicapper General will be the only person that can move freely and think freely. If the general had given herself handicaps, she might not have been able to remove the obstacles standing in her regime.
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Post by woojongpark on Sept 2, 2012 5:58:40 GMT -5
I think it is important to have a leader, but I don't think a single leader will lead the group well.
People are greedy organisms. If they taste the power, they crave for more. Thus, I don't think a single leader is okay to lead a group because there is high probability that he/she would turn into a tyrant.
Also, this story reminds me of 1984. Like The general of handicap in this story, people in high class had some merits unlike other people. I think both stories covered the topic of equality well.
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Post by mirim002 on Sept 2, 2012 7:17:20 GMT -5
Maybe the general wasn't wearing the handicap because the general didn't want to be the same as the other handicappers. The generals can do anything they want because they are in charge. Im not sure...i haven't thought of this question before...but i think that everyone should be equal...including the generals...
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Post by jooyoungpark on Sept 2, 2012 7:39:16 GMT -5
I agree, the fact that the handicap general is not equal to others, while in a world where everyone is supposed to be equal. Is only because the genral is the leader. As you said, leaders need higher intelligence than the ones who are getting lead. However this is kind of a sly thing by the government in the story, they said everyone is equal, but everyone is not, in fact, the one who says everyone is equal, is actually the one who is not.
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Post by akari on Oct 26, 2012 10:14:23 GMT -5
because he is normal people. only people who are special has to wear it.
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