We all discussed this in class and got the conclusion that the poem was about humans being insignificant. Before that conclusion, what did you think this poem was about? What did you think the message was? Do you feel like there is a different message, not the humans being insignificant?
I originally thought this poem was about the nature restoring back to its original state after a long hardship it faced because of the humans. The animals finally got to live their lives the way it was meant to be. I am not shocked nor bored by the poem's message. It was more of an "Oh, okay" kind of reaction. I knew that we, humans are very unreasonable and unfair to the earth and others living in it. But to know that one day, we won't matter at all, was interesting.
Before we started talking about the insignificance of mankind, I thought that this poem was about the transition from winter to spring. Because winter is such a harsh season (at least where we are living at the moment) I interpreted the meaning of 'war' as winter. When the author said "And Spring herself, when woke at dawn, Would scarcely know that we were gone." I thought the author was trying to say that Spring will come and bloom flowers once again as if winter was never there.
Like Ruchira, I am not shocked or surprised by this poem's actual definition. I just thought that it was a very good message to think about. Then I felt motivated to somehow make myself immortal.
i actully thaught that this poem was about people haveing conflicts between each other but no one actully care. Message i thaught of is that we have hitories of war which things happen by human mistakes but later on we should not make this mistake by looking back but we still make it. I think there is not a real diffrent message since the whole poem actully sets the mood in depression to give a sad message to readers.
Post by brandonina on Sept 8, 2012 20:16:41 GMT -5
I kind of have a similar idea with Stephen. At first, I thought the poem was trying to tell us how even though humans brutally kill each other, the nature wouldn't really care about it. Since we are apparently small part of the world and universe, the nature will still go on and we will simply be disappeared one day. The nature is immortal and we are not. This was how I interpreted the author's point of view.
I thought the message was pretty interesting as well. I have never thought about this in my entire life so it a new thing that went through my mind.
At first i thought that this poem was about nature as it talks about the nature in the first few lines. Then as i read through i found out that there was a war which the nature didn't notice because we don't think about them. Then in class i found out that my thoughts was a bit close. I did not think about people being extinct and the nature not thinking about it. I kinda felt sad because some plants and animals were victims in my hands.
At first i thought it would be just something about weather and season. How good each and special each seasons, just bascily about nature and animals reaction. As we understood it was a bout insignificance of humans. I was pretty surprise to hear that, i always thought humans were very significant and after it i still think the same way, but just it feels sort of different
Post by jooyoungpark on Sept 8, 2012 21:52:42 GMT -5
For me, this poem at first was very confusing, it was something that i had to read over and over again to get a hang of it. After the short discussion in class, apparently we got a conclusion that the theme is "Our insignificance over nature". I agree, i think the poem is truly about how unimportant we are to nature. Even though we may destroy it, even though, we bomb ourselves, nature does not care and continues to flourish
I think that this poem was about the end of man kind at first, but don't know how. The poem mentioned about "war", which i think might mean something else. It might be the end of the world, since it explains the end of human beings better than war. The poem started out soft and a bit gloomy, but had a quick twist at the end.
When I read I think it was war but when we discuss it was relate to the nature. So it tell me human is not helpful to the nature because human doing bad things to the nature like war and destroy environment.
This story was really hard for me to understand at first, but as I kept reading over and over, I understood the story. But how I understood the story was different from what we discussed. What I thought was that at first, since the author talked a lot about the nature, I thought the author was emphasizing about it. But when the author talked about wars and said how people thinks nature was far more important than people dying in war, I realized that wars were not important to many people; instead, nature was more important.
When I first read the poem, I thought that it was about humans against the nature, because in the poem, it mentioned war after talking about the nature. So, I thought that the author was trying to say to stop destroying nature to humans. But when I heard that the poem was about humans being insignificant after a discussion in our class, I was kind of shocked first, but understood after hearing ms.boyd's explanation.
Post by woojongpark on Sept 9, 2012 7:47:23 GMT -5
It was difficult for me to understand at first too because the mood of the poem changed suddenly. At first, it talked about soft rains and animals. Then, it talked about how now one would care about the war and humans at the last few sentences.
I personally think that this poem is trying to say that war, nuclear bombs, and any conflicts humans make are meaningless. When we first talked about the theme of human importance in class, I was a bit surprised because it was different from what I thought.
Post by ExtremelyExtremeExtremist on Sept 9, 2012 9:14:14 GMT -5
It was hard to understand this poem because at first, I thought it was about how weather will improve the soil, then I thought it will be about the impact of war, and then after I finished reading, the poem told that all these actions accomplished by humans are insignificant. I could understand a little bit after Ms. Boyd described it. Humans being insignificant is an important message, but the different one is that we should not fight the meaningless war that only annihilates a horde of people.
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I believe that this poem was confusing to everyone and this poem made people think differently and see how my classmates think. I thought this poem was about human beings not caring about the nature and just destroying the nature (ex. forests) to gain their benefits by expanding the land amount and creating a new city or houses for themselves. But if i looked at the poem the other way around it wasn't about the nature vs. human. However after discussing it during class, i understood the poem clearly, and i was half right about how we are destroying the nature by gaining our benefits, and we are selfish.