james
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Post by james on Sept 10, 2012 0:42:59 GMT -5
Well, I know it is kind of stupid, but at first, I thought it is some kind of human expression by those animals that were described. Because we were only assigned to read the poem not the story, it was hard to understand the poem without understanding or, at least, reading the story. However, I realized that this poem was related to the war and like you said, humans being insignificant. And I didn't find any message besides human being insignificant. Also, I don't really like poems and quotes because it's really confusing way to send a message to readers. Often times I don't really see the main point of poems and quotes. That's like "the" reason why I think writing or reading poems is just hard and don't really like it. I'm ok with reading books like fictions or etc. But I just can get familiar with poems.. it's hard to understand..
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Post by linnie on Sept 10, 2012 4:07:57 GMT -5
At first, I was seriously confused. What do we have to do with nature and war? The poem was talking about how rain comes and significance of nature, but suddenly, it was talking about war. So at first, I thought it was about anti war poem, because I think it criticizes the war by stating that nature will not notice even human are gone. The day without people will still be the same.
At the same time, I thought of people harming nature, such as deforestation. Since people are cutting down trees for their benefit. But when the "war" part appeared, that made me confused. But discussing in the class, I could understand the theme of the poem, and it was insignificance of human compared to nature.
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Post by sorn on Sept 11, 2012 8:41:37 GMT -5
I thought that the poem was about a peaceful life. The overview of the natural forest and also how animals helps each other in this forest to create a balanced ecosystem without human interfering their peaceful environment. I also found this poem very, very hard to understand. The poem started our with a peaceful environment and then became very aggressive when it mentioned the part about the war. It came out of nowhere, and then the emotion went back to peaceful again at the end. So I was quite confused about what kind of emotions the author was trying to persuade us into.
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Post by nadiraamalina on Sept 12, 2012 6:07:20 GMT -5
I think the author was trying to remind us that we humans are just a small part of life. Sure, we've made great progress since the first days of human existence, but our actions affect only us humans. When have animals benefited from advances in human technology? Humans are currently the most dominant species on earth, but in the past, that title belonged to the dinosaurs and creatures that lived farther in the past than they have. So in the distant future, some cataclysmic event'll occur and wipe all of us off the face of the earth, and no one'll be around to remember that we once existed. So, like I mentioned earlier, I think the author is telling us to stay humble and remember the old saying, "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust".
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Post by jisu25 on Sept 14, 2012 1:58:11 GMT -5
I also agree to the idea that the poem was trying to tell us that humans are only a fragment of an existence within the world and that it is important that we won't think that we are emperors of the planet because if we do, then there might be a horrible disaster that will face human in the near future.
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Post by lukejoo1092 on Oct 3, 2012 9:28:51 GMT -5
Well, at first I thought the poem was about how Mother Nature wouldn't care about whatever happens between us humans, whether we keep on killing each other in cold blood. How whatever we do, in the eyes of Mother Nature, it means NOTHING. But it turned out that the poem was about the insignificance of humans.
At first I accepted the poem literally but later as we went over it in class, I got to review it more deeply, trying to find out the hidden message inside. Yes, I believe that the insignificance of humans is the major message but I think that's not it. We are unimportant, making whatever we do unimportant. So, why waste your time on doing stupid things like wars and other evil doings? Spend your time on other things that are at least WORTH IT. Do things that are WORTH doing so that although they are unimportant as the actions of humans, they are the most important actions of humans out of all of the unimportant things we may do. Why bother trying to become rulers when it's useless? Do things that would actually benefit you during your time. Do things that would make you significant to others. Do things that would make you the most significant out the insignificant.
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Post by woori on Oct 25, 2012 20:27:50 GMT -5
Hello
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