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Post by yeajinchoi on Feb 23, 2013 23:52:31 GMT -5
glassvisage.hubpages.com/hub/Julius-Caesar---The-Assassination-History-and-Shakespeare-CombinedI know that the play can't be used as a historical evidence of what happened to Julius Caesar but because the characters in Shakespeare's play actually exists, I was curious about how true the story was. So I went and asked google. According to some website, some famous quotes in the play were actual quotes said by the major characters in history. Like some lines said by Brutus was actually said by Brutus in real life! Then, I stumbled to this website. It's really fascinating and clearly compares and contrasts the play and the actual history. Check it out and you'll be surprised at how true the play is.! What do you guys think?
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Post by elisalee on Mar 2, 2013 19:45:40 GMT -5
Haha wow. I'm surprised that you actually did a research about Julius Caesar. Anyways, I think this is great, because some parts of the play is the lines that were actually said by the characters in the play. I was also actually curious if Shakespeare wrote the play based on what the characters actually said. Soo thank you yeajin for solving my question! hehehe
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Post by misatonakano on Mar 2, 2013 22:08:21 GMT -5
It is great if Shakespeare wrote the play based on what characters actually said. What I feel the greatest is the talent of Shakespeare who criated wonderful play using such actual quote by people.
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Post by gb1708 on Mar 3, 2013 2:38:42 GMT -5
This website is actually great. But, I wonder that before, people speak old english so do they take time to analyze what do anothers say ?
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Post by sergeyfen on Mar 9, 2013 9:44:21 GMT -5
Ohh that websites has bumch of stuff, anyway its pretty cool to know that some quotes were actual were said by real characters. I just wonder how did they translate or got the quotes from actual characters? And how did he know if they were actually said in real life?
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Post by sorn on Mar 9, 2013 17:59:09 GMT -5
Wow, this website is actually really great. I was also very surprised how Shakespeare can turn a moment in a history into an actual play. How does he know what every character was thinking? But the most surprising part for me was that he was actually able to teach a life lesson through the characters and by their actions. It truly shows that Shakespeare was a very talented writer and Julius Caesar was a true leader for Rome. I actually learned a lot about people's true identity and the real inborn trait of human.
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Post by woojongpark on Mar 10, 2013 0:20:42 GMT -5
I did not know that the letter thingy from Cassius to Brutus was made in play. I guess Shakespeare included that scene to explain the process of how Brutus is being convinced by the conspirators easily. I also didn't know that Caesar actually killed Pompey in history while in the play it is described as just driven out. Maybe to Shakespeare Pompey was not the key character that had important role to his play. The fact that shocked me the most is the fact that Caesar was killed in public while no one tried to rescue him.
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Post by lukejoo1092 on Mar 11, 2013 8:47:49 GMT -5
Ahah! So Brutus did actually tell Portia (actual name = Porcia) about his plotting against Caesar. In the play, it was displayed that she just found it out all by herself thanks to the Soothsayer. Looking at this, we can tell that Brutus did keep his word of letting Portia know about his concerns and thus he really does respect his wife. But without knowing this throughout the play, we could only assume that he did so. It was possible to interpret his action of having her go away once the other men came as an act of simple annoyance, wanting her to go away. But now we can be 100% positive that he really was a man of his word.
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Post by linnie on Mar 11, 2013 9:11:31 GMT -5
You know what I am really surprised about right now? I am surprised that lots of people actually READ this long article, which I was really lazy to do. Well, I finished it anyway. And I agree with Luke that Brutus is a man with words! He actually kept his word! With our class, we assumed that Brutus didn't tell Portia and treated her as annoying little girl. But our guess wan't true, I believe.
Other things I found is that in the play, to dramatize Caesar's death, it says that Julius Caesar was stabbed 33 times. But in real history, he was stabbed 22 times or something. Also in play, there were only 8 conspirators. But in real history, it is believed that there were more than 30 conspirators or whole senate was part of conspiracy, which is bad for Julius Caesar.
You can find more info like this in Google! I actually found this out in our web quest time in our class, during English period.
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Post by crystal on Mar 14, 2013 2:22:55 GMT -5
In history, Caesar is said to be a good king, brutus is considered to be a traitor, I can't understand which one is true.
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Post by jungholee on Mar 16, 2013 0:27:22 GMT -5
wow i only thought the "Et tu Brutus!!" part was the real quote. But based on the article... That means Antony actually did the speech for Caesar's death without any script, he just made it when he speaks... That's awesome....
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Post by brandonina on Mar 16, 2013 23:25:51 GMT -5
It is obvious that Julius Caesar play, though generally accurate, is a bit different than the actual history. The play should be more dramatic and emotional since each character has his or her individual character, which Shakespeare, the genius, somehow made up. I think it was interesting to know that Caesar might have said either "Et tu, Brute?" (Greek= "You too my child?) or "Et tu, Brutus?" The relationship between Caesar and Brutus was deeper than I thought. (How could Brutus possibly kill Caesar? He is such an honorable man). I didn't know that Antony was in the scene where Caesar died but it was that a conspirator was distracting him. The conspirators could've just killed him there. And no one tried to rescue Caesar in the public! How sad is that!
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Post by nadiraamalina on Mar 21, 2013 6:19:32 GMT -5
I think that the website's made me respect Shakespeare more, since he made history interesting (if somewhat hard to understand) by adding more DRAMA to it. And some details such as the fact that there were SIXTY conspirators was altered because finding actors for those one line roles would've been waaay too pricey. So perhaps the fake letters from the citizens were fake, that's just a small detail to add to the suspense. However, what i really hated was the fact that Brutus may have had nothing to do with Caesar's assassination. He is (arguably) the protagonist of the play. That piece of knowledge makes this play tip to the fiction side of the Fact vs. Fiction scale
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Post by irin on Mar 25, 2013 11:01:49 GMT -5
I think website show great of Julie Caeser.
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