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Post by yeajinchoi on Mar 2, 2013 0:34:05 GMT -5
So, we finally read the part where Caesar dies! That was something that I was really looking forward to in the play.
BUT! I was heavily disappointed. what was that?! One line. <Caesar dies.> That's all it said. I expected Caesar's death to be more dramatic and longer I wondered what Caesar's last words would be, maybe some movements of pain right before his death.. SOMETHING! haha Because it was so short, I thought maybe there is a different aspect that Shakespeare wants to focus on. Maybe there will be the main event is something else.
I thought that it was a sort of microcosm that Ms.Boyd taught us in class but maybe not. I'm not sure what that vocab clearly means yet.
What did you guys think of Caesar's one line death? Did you expect it to be dramatic like me? What do you think the main event will be? or was?
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Post by sazad100 on Mar 2, 2013 5:26:41 GMT -5
I agree with you Yeajin i thought that Caesar's death would be more dramatic, after all the play is named after him. But yea it was disappointing. I think his death is just the turning point and the main event might be his supporters revenge against the main big conspirators such as Brutus and Cassius.
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Post by esther on Mar 2, 2013 5:48:26 GMT -5
I do agree with this too. We have been waiting for this seen, but all shakespeare wrote was Caesar dies. I thought it would be at least longer than this, and it was surprising that he was so easily dead.
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Post by elisalee on Mar 2, 2013 19:10:42 GMT -5
I think everyone thought the same way because Shakespeare's writing style is usually very detailed, so we probably expected Caesar's death to be more dramatic. However, it turned out to be in a line <Caesar dies.>. I also thought that there should be more explanation, so I was quite surprised.
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Post by misatonakano on Mar 2, 2013 22:15:33 GMT -5
I agree. Cesar's deth have to be more doramatic...When I have read this scene I was so surprised.
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Post by gb1708 on Mar 3, 2013 2:34:32 GMT -5
First, i'm thankful for Shakespeare cause of one line, we don't have to read more and discuss more about his death. Second, I also think that his death will be in a little lines from i know Ceasar's doing the speech and suddenly lots of people go out and kill him. Look, if you are in this case that a lot of swords was lodged in your body, what can you say? Luckily, Ceasar still can say one sentense!!! ;D
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Post by brandonina on Mar 3, 2013 5:49:05 GMT -5
I also expected Caesar's death to be something dramatic and longer than just "Caesar dies" because I believed that Caesar is the most important part in the play (it's called Julius Caesar). But I just think that tragic events that happen around Caesar, focusing on people who were involved in killing him and people who weren't would be the main part of the play. And I still wonder what microcosm means. I think it means that things that happen in certain, small area applies to other larger parts of the world. It's like how citizens are fickle and listen to people with higher position and authority applies to the modern, global world. We are easily swayed by medias and propaganda. Yeah.
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Post by KevinW on Mar 3, 2013 5:55:41 GMT -5
It's true. I ended up rereading the section because I didn't even notice he died the first time!
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Post by james on Mar 3, 2013 7:13:42 GMT -5
Ha.. I totally agree with you. When i first read it, i totally missed that he died! I felt a little weird and read it again then i realized there was just one line describing caesars death. Hoky crapp.. That was really quick.. In one line, he died...haha.. What a great way for a main character to die! Just like you, i felt something really dramatic or at least, not like that crapu way... I mean there mustve been a better way dont u think,,
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Post by woojongpark on Mar 3, 2013 9:33:14 GMT -5
This play was written to be acted out, not read after all. I think the scene would be more dramatic if seen onstage. But I agree that his death was very sudden haha... Took me a while to notice that he was dead.
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Post by lukejoo1092 on Mar 4, 2013 6:25:43 GMT -5
Yea, i expected it to have some more detail and drama into it but apparently, i was wrong. probably you're right about wat u said how shakespeare might have wanted to focus on something else. for me i think he wanted to focus on the cause and effect. i mean, everyone knows that he died so theres not much point in re-doing that part. but it would be important to know how and why this happened and what came next because of this. so i think you could say that caesar's death itself wasn't that significant but the events that connect to it are.
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Post by linnie on Mar 4, 2013 8:45:48 GMT -5
It is Shakespeare. He is unexpectable. Is that a word? I don't think it is but I think it is fine since Shakespeare made up his own words. Anyway, I feel the same! As my favorite part, I thought it would be more interesting and longer death. "Caesar dies" really... wasn't expected. I was like, "That's all?"
Anyway microcosm is something small in the play represents the big one, like whole world. I'm not sure if his death is representing something big. I think if it was representing something important, Shakespeare would have made it more interesting and longer than "Caesar Dies". So I don't think there is any hidden meaning to this. I liked this part because finally Caesar dies and something will happen, and also it was short! I love short parts and scenes!
Anyway, I think most of us weren't really expecting Caesar's death to be so fast. Well, but I think it is quite logical that he was stabbed 33 times. There would be lots of blood and pain and stuff going on. It is logical to die fast because he had lost so much blood suddenly.
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Post by jisu25 on Mar 5, 2013 5:13:29 GMT -5
When Caesar died, I thought that it was going something described in a very sad and dramatic way, but it was a line with 3 words. I think that the play Julius Caesar needed to be changed into the "Starting of the Fall of Rome" or something like that.
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Post by JustinK. on Mar 5, 2013 6:32:54 GMT -5
>< i was pretty disappointed at such a short death. I was expecting some long monologue by Caesar talking about how cruel or that he knew this would happen~~ It could've been that he knew death will come anyways, so he isn't worried at all. But probably shocked, not knowing that it'll come so soon. It could also be about betrayal and how dare them kill Caesar. He might talk about whether he is being too arrogant or that the conspirators are craving for power.
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Post by |Ruchira| on Mar 6, 2013 3:55:03 GMT -5
I think Shakespeare wanted to focus more on what happened after he died. Because right after he dies Antony talked a lot about how he felt about Caesar and his death and he was speaking of revenge but then again he sided with Brutas. Also Brutas shows how he feels about the killing while others were freaking out and trying to hide it
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