As many of u peop(including me) mentioned, there were many many things that really doesn't make sense in the movie equilibrium. Such as, there should be no fights according to the father, however, there are a loootttsss of fights between the emotionless people and people who has emotion(it might make sense but in general). What I want to ask you guys is that did u guyz ever ever ever had a moment where you thought, "Oh that guy looks like he has emotion." When? and why? To me, the scene where John was training and the black guy came by and started to train(actually sort of like a fight). Because it really looked like the guy had an emotion.. he was grinning when he thought he got john in the arm(was it?) so.. yeah.. I know it sounds kinda late to post this because our essay about the movie is due tuesday...Anyways..
I guess the people who had emotions were show in the movie other than that i did not actually find anybody who might have had emotions. But I think you are right the time when they fight, the black guy seemed to have some emotions.
Yeah i noticed some people smiling in the background, like the extra people. I was like, why are they smiling, i thought no one should be smiling or having any emotions. I also noticed the black dude was smiling alot. I think he has emotions too...I thought he looked suspicious.
o.O and what you just said, sparked an idea in my head. The "emotionless" says that there will be no conflicts or wars if feeling doesn't exist. Then why are the sense offenders being executed? Why don't the emotionless people just leave them alone. Since they can't feel, it doesn't mean they need to be hostile towards the sense offenders.
Post by ExtremelyExtremeExtremist on Oct 21, 2012 7:10:12 GMT -5
I don't understand the concept of marriage in the movie, because it means that John and his wife loved each other. This tells that they both had an emotion. If the government emphasized the outlaw of emotion, then there can't be marriage.
But if the government forced them to marry in order to produce future posterities, then that can make sense. We may never know why marriage exists in the movie.
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Post by nadiraamalina on Oct 21, 2012 7:30:18 GMT -5
I think the father meant no fights as in emotion-fueled fights. The clerics and the policemen are just doing their job. They don't kill the sense offenders and the resistance because killing thrills them. They just see it as something necessary. As in how chefs cook and teachers teach.
I get that Brandt smiled a lot in the movie and it seemed out of place, but he was given a special task by the Father, who definitely was not on the emotion suppressing drug. Since Brandt was his right-hand man, it would make sense for the Father to give him special privileges.
However, one thing that I'm curious about is, now that the Father's been overthrown, what happens next? Who'll be the new leader? What'll the new society be like?
I think the person who was in charge of Liberia had feeling. It's because DuPont got mad at John when he was talking to him because he heard the rumors that John was helping the people who has feelings. He should be not mad he had feelings.
I think that the father definitely has feelings or else he wouldn't be able to control most of the people in the nation. Because emotions allow people to think differently and I also think that it is more powerful than people who doesn't have emotions.
There are many gaps but the gaps i have seen is that everytime there is fight people or securities run away and it seems they have fear which they arent suppose to have. Also when Brandt has brought Preston to tell he everyone that he has feelings, he almost screamed and was very emotional in sense of saying it like a speaker, but once again he shouldnt have any emotions.
Post by agneslianaputri99 on Oct 23, 2012 6:17:01 GMT -5
I think everyone has feelings in that movie, I mean they still talk to each other that means they care about people right? If they don't have feelings they wouldn't even care to talk to each other. I don't know I just feel that something is weird about that movie.
i think in the movie they shouldn't do anything they should follow the orders of the father if they are emotion less people like in the movie the people who were emotion less were like talking to each other the should be like robots.
i think in the movie they shouldn't do anything they should follow the orders of the father if they are emotion less people like in the movie the people who were emotion less were like talking to each other the should be like robots. and i also agree with james
Yeah many of the people who arent supposed to have emotions looked like they have emotions, which kinda ruined the whole idea that I had in my head about equality... but anyways. I think that if the people there in the movie didnt have any emotions then, the movie would be pretty dull and I would probably fall asleep because they all would look like robot.
Post by lukejoo1092 on Oct 24, 2012 9:21:33 GMT -5
Well, this is kind of off topic but I want to give an answer to your question about how come the other people feel. If you remember the last part of the movie, you can discover that Dupont actually is also a sense offender who can feel and enjoys the luxury. Brandt is also beside him and doesn't seemed to be bothered by that fact either. Maybe, just maybe Brandt was also a sense offender from the beginning. Maybe both Dupont and he were faking their expressions and lied that they can't feel. They kept the society to feel nothing though in order to maintain absolute control and secretly enjoy the luxury of emotions.