sorn
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Post by sorn on Jan 2, 2013 12:28:04 GMT -5
While I was looking back at the story of The World on the Turtle's Back, I suddenly came up with a question. The Iroquois people believed about Good Spirit and Evil Spirit. The Good Spirit made all the good things on earth while The Evil Spirit, was responsible for the bad things on earth. Do you think there should be both good and evil on earth? And why? I know this is a hard question but I just wanted to know what you guys think about it.
For me I think that there should be both good and evil on earth because without good we wouldn't know what evil is and without evil we wouldn't know what good is. Right? We are all different and we all have our good and bad side. In our world, if we have too much of something it could create an imbalance in the world. But I also think that it is up to the perspective of each individuals about what they consider good or evil.
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Post by lukejoo1092 on Jan 3, 2013 4:37:11 GMT -5
I agree. There must be good and evil. They both must exist. Yes, it's true that one can't exist without the other but I see more than that. I think it's the reason why we exist. Although I'm Christian, for now I'll talk in an open minded perspective. Now let's say that there is a god, whoever that god may be, started all of this, the world we live in. And, that there are no logical or scientific explanations. Then it's impossible to explain how we began without the existence of an almighty god because nothing can just create itself without being created in the first place. So that means that the god created us and everything around us. But why? Why would a being be interested in creating new life? What good is it? Well, the god doesn't need anything. So that leaves us with the god's wants. The god wants something. My personal guess to the answer is entertainment. Not in a trivial or simple way, but wanting to be entertained through his feelings, his heart, his soul (if he does have such things;; . After all, the god is gonna have to exist for whole eternity so he's gonna be very very VERY bored without having anything. So he created us, humans. But by adding the concept of good and evil, we can show the battles between the two beliefs, how we struggle and fight for the other. Everything in this world is based on the two so seeing them fight each other and watching which side wins doesn't sound like a bad hobby to me as a god. So yeah, I do believe that there should be good and evil. "We" need it for balance of this world but the real reason I believe is simply because the "god" who created us "wanted" us to have good and evil for his own purposes.
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Post by brandonina on Jan 4, 2013 7:39:06 GMT -5
I agree with your opinion that there should be both good and evil on earth. As you said, there should be a balance between both forces. Even though some people might contend that there should be only goods in this world to promote better societies, they would find out that evils are certainly formed within the goods again in whatever ways. For example, let's say people in this world are all good. The world they create would be so peaceful and good. However, as they interact each other, some people would eventually turn evil. There's no reason to this and I believe in this nature.
I believe there are so many things that might disappear from the society if there isn't evil. For example, police wouldn't exist since there would be no crimes. But this is implausible. So yeah, I believe there should be a balance between both.
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jisu25
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Post by jisu25 on Jan 4, 2013 21:48:53 GMT -5
I am going to agree with the idea about needing both good and evil within the world because like Brandon said there is a balance between good and evil. However I think what makes good and evil in this world depends on living beings' actions. Based on their action, people can become good or evil. It is impossible for everyone in the world to be good because people can do deeds that would only benefit themselves while destroying another person¡¯s dream or desire. This can only be good towards you, however it is evil towards others.
Not only human beings, but animals might be the cause of good and evil towards the world. Animals hunt other animal in order to survive, and that can be considered evil towards the prey. During a hunt, the predator is murdering the prey in order to survive and I think that the prey would want to live a quiet life without being disturbed.
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Post by esther on Jan 5, 2013 1:44:49 GMT -5
good and evil do need to exist in the world. If there is only good, then there would not be any progress to the world, and if there is only evil, the world would be full of bad acts and all those stuff. So, i think there definitely need both good and evil.
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Post by woojongpark on Jan 5, 2013 3:04:38 GMT -5
I don't think there is a definite definition for good and evil. What matters is one's perspective of seeing things. For example, let's say that person A used violence against criminal B in order to arrest B. Many people will believe that A did the right thing, while others will think he is bad since he used force. I know this is a bad example, but I hope it shows what I'm trying to say. Same goes for The World on the Turtle's Back. From the deviant one's perspective, the straight one is the evil. But if we see from the straight one's perspective, the deviant one is the evil.
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Post by yeajinchoi on Jan 5, 2013 4:24:05 GMT -5
Yeah. I think that there should be both good AND evil on Earth. We all the same opinions here. haha. Without evil, we wouldnt know when something is good. And without good side, we wouldn't recognize the bad things when they are present. Well, actually I dont think EVIL things are necessary but we all need a bit of good and BAD in our world for sure.
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Post by jungholee on Jan 5, 2013 6:58:24 GMT -5
I think so. Because there is right and wrong things in the world, we can describe what it is, and what is the best situation that we can make. So we are trying to make a good life, good society. the definition of good life is settled by human though...
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Post by nadiraamalina on Jan 5, 2013 7:34:22 GMT -5
I think that both good and evil should exist equally, since the world needs it to be in balance, just like the story of the world on the turtle's back says. The World On The Turtle's Back starts with one twin who is perfectly good and another twin who is perfectly bad, but I doubt that kind of thing is realistic.
And that is the fact that there is not one person who is 100% good, nor is there anyone who is 100% evil. For example, Hitler is one of the most evil people in history, but even he has loved ones that he treats with love and respect. And I think that all of us here fall on the good side of the scale, but even we lie and cheat and do things that the left-handed twin would congratulate us on. Basically, i think that good and evil exist equally, but are spread out in people
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Post by mirim002 on Jan 6, 2013 3:19:01 GMT -5
Well...thats a hard question...but i think that both good and evil should be...as nadira said...exist. The world should equal and balanced. It wouldnt be too good if there was only good in this world , and i also think that it wouldnt be good if there was only evil in this world. I agree with Yeajin saying that without good, we wouldnt know what the bad things are.
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Post by munisa on Jan 6, 2013 3:25:11 GMT -5
I think that there should be both good and bad simply becuase life would be too boring without any good or bad. With both of those things its much more interesting to live and see new things in life. if there was only right then there would be no such thing as bad, and people would get confused with what is good and what is bad. Actually I think that if there was only good and no bad, then there would be no such thing as bad, becuase in a world where there is only good is hard to know what is bad without any bad. \
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Post by |Ruchira| on Jan 6, 2013 4:45:12 GMT -5
HI GUYS! I'M SCARED ABOUT GOING BACK TO SCHOOL!!!
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Post by junilee26 on Jan 6, 2013 10:16:16 GMT -5
Helloooo it's 2013!!!!
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Post by elisalee on Jan 6, 2013 11:06:15 GMT -5
In my opinion, I think there should be both good and evil to balance the world. Without one of them, the world would be unbalanced.
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Post by linnie on Jan 7, 2013 3:10:10 GMT -5
As most of people said, I think we need both good and bad. As Native American believed, we need balance. If there is no one side, this will cause catastrophe. And there should be opposite side if the other exist.
I mean if no bad exists, we don't know if it is good, as Sorn said. And vice versa. But what I believe that no matter what, even though we don't want it, good and bad exist. If there is no bad existing, the less "good" one will be the evil one. On the other hand, if no good exists, less "evil" one will be the good one. Like this, there should be good and bad and there must be one. Also there is no exact standard or rule that divide people from good and bad. So if bad is gone, than things that was considered good can be bad, because of absence of evil.
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