Post by lukejoo1092 on May 14, 2013 8:05:08 GMT -5
we're focusing on the dark side of transcendentalism these days. im not sure if we're gonna cover this but im just wondering, what are some bad things about being a transcendentalist if there are any?
I think that 1 bad thing about being a transcendentalist can be that you may end up cutting yourself off from the society in such a degree that the society won't be willing to welcome you back into it if you ever desire to do so. You're not sure whether you're gonna be a transcendentalist for your entire life and sometimes you just have to mix with the crowd. but if you differentiate yourself from them so much that they begin to fear you and want to stay away from you, then you might end up being excluded by the society even if you try to follow them. you wont be able to be part of them again.
but this is just my thought. do you have any other interesting ideas?
I personally think that 2 of them actually bad. First one is that if you are transendentalist since you are following your instinct to do things you might end up doing something wrong for example killing or hurting someone because you have diffrent percpective of what you think. Second thing that might go wrong is as you said Luke people might ostracise you forever and you won't be able to get back in society and you might end up commiting suicide because of the act you did to become transendentalist.
I agree with you. Acting fully from your instinct is basically not conforming to your society. You might end up being the minority of the society and meet a lot of disadvantages. However, you can actually meet some people that have the same instincts and opinions as yours and expand on your values. This is just my opinion., but I think adapting yourself well in the society is a good personal trait. I've always wanted to have this trait so it was hard for me to become a transcendentalist. As everybody knows, being a transcendentalist can be either good or bad depending on the situation.
I agree with you. Another bad thing that about being a transcendentalist is that you can go out out your way and even put yourself in danger. For example, Vincent Van Gogh believed in art and did extraordinary things like eating paint and cutting off his ears. That's just plain dangerous. Transcendentalists usually have very strong opinions on things. Sometimes, they can go off the charts and risk their life.
I agree with you luke. Being a transcendentalist is very lonely and hard. The society might not what you are being and doing, so they can exclude you from the society. It is good to be a transcendentalist and to follow your own instincts, but the people around you will think weirdly and might not like you.
Post by ExtremelyExtremeExtremist on May 19, 2013 3:18:29 GMT -5
1. People will ostracize you because you demand others to like your opinion and criticize them for not understanding it 2. You can¡¯t get along with the society even if you try to change 3. You can harm the society with your opinion, such as killing people for petty reasons 4. Will create some criminals 5. Can give discomfort to others
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Being a transcendentalist is bad because since you are different from other people and since you are following your own instinct, people will ostracize you. Since it is your own instinct, people will have hard time trying to understand what's inside your mind. Also, since you're all alone, it would be very lonely and therefore, hard to be a transcendentalist. I personally think that if a person who tries to be a transcendentalist consider being a transcendentalist a hard thing to do, they should not force themselves to be a transcendentalist. Because it is lonely and hard, it is going to take a lot of effort and time to become a person who is different from the others. I guess that is what's so bad about being a transcendentalist.
I agree with you, I don't think they will have friend, being outcast of society and also it effects their life a lot. But if you meet someone like you, it is like 80% that you guys are going to be best friend.
I agree with you Luke. I also think that sometimes being transcendentalist can take a negative turn. If a person feels like doing something stupid, like disturbing others in some ways, then it is kind of wrong. You might think something wrong is alright but is it alright sometimes?
well there's nothing wrong about being a trancendentalist if you know the true definition of it, like if you know that you are doing something stupid and do it anyways, then that's not being a trancendentalist, that's just being an idiot.
I can't really think about other because you just wrote my first and last opinion...But anyways, yea, I agree with that. Actually in Japan, there is someone like never come out of their room, and just focus on their work. They called Hikicomori(I'm not sure the spells right or wrong) and they are kind of transcendentalist, but the society doesn't like them at all.
Being transcendalist is going against others idea. That is why it goes over other's ideas and belief. I think that people should come together and socialze together and not separate each other from different idea.